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		<title>By: VirusHead</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2005/04/05/greenzap-paypal-new-competitor/comment-page-1#comment-77104</link>
		<dc:creator>VirusHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the lively and informative comments! 

I hadn&#039;t even realized that it was in the top ten most-commented posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the lively and informative comments! </p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t even realized that it was in the top ten most-commented posts.</p>
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		<title>By: What ajoke</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2005/04/05/greenzap-paypal-new-competitor/comment-page-1#comment-3642</link>
		<dc:creator>What ajoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 17:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not even a coupon, its a rebate that comes in 6-8 weeks.
 
But here is the fun part - you have to get at least 5.01 to get the rebate... And since most &quot;Merchants&quot; only offer up to 5% (Unless you want ink jet refills, or a satalite dish), you have to spend over $100 to get the rebate.

But wait there is more- well its a rebate - so you have to spend the full amount up-front.   Then 6-8 weeks later they process your request.  Then since they only pay out once a month - you wait a few weeks more they will credit your account.

But wait - even more - once they credit your account - you want to use the money right?  Well unfortunatly, none of the merchants listed actually accept greenzap as a payment method.  

You have to request a check - then wait another month to get the check.  Take it to the bank and wait for it to clear.....

Oh but wait guess what - even more - Think they will cut you a check for free?  - You actually have to pay them to send you the check.  

Maybe if there was anyone out there that was took greenzap as a payment method - but no one does...... why would you want money in an account that couldn&#039;t be used anywhere.
 
How long would it take to actually be able to spend your rebate?
6-8 weeks to get the rebate
2 weeks more to be credited (only once a month)
request a check
2-3 weeks to get the check
1 week for the check to clear.
 
11-14 weeks?  Thats what about 3 months for your check?  Hours spent checking and processing the order?  All for a few percet off?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not even a coupon, its a rebate that comes in 6-8 weeks.</p>
<p>But here is the fun part &#8211; you have to get at least 5.01 to get the rebate&#8230; And since most &#8220;Merchants&#8221; only offer up to 5% (Unless you want ink jet refills, or a satalite dish), you have to spend over $100 to get the rebate.</p>
<p>But wait there is more- well its a rebate &#8211; so you have to spend the full amount up-front.   Then 6-8 weeks later they process your request.  Then since they only pay out once a month &#8211; you wait a few weeks more they will credit your account.</p>
<p>But wait &#8211; even more &#8211; once they credit your account &#8211; you want to use the money right?  Well unfortunatly, none of the merchants listed actually accept greenzap as a payment method.  </p>
<p>You have to request a check &#8211; then wait another month to get the check.  Take it to the bank and wait for it to clear&#8230;..</p>
<p>Oh but wait guess what &#8211; even more &#8211; Think they will cut you a check for free?  &#8211; You actually have to pay them to send you the check.  </p>
<p>Maybe if there was anyone out there that was took greenzap as a payment method &#8211; but no one does&#8230;&#8230; why would you want money in an account that couldn&#8217;t be used anywhere.</p>
<p>How long would it take to actually be able to spend your rebate?<br />
6-8 weeks to get the rebate<br />
2 weeks more to be credited (only once a month)<br />
request a check<br />
2-3 weeks to get the check<br />
1 week for the check to clear.</p>
<p>11-14 weeks?  Thats what about 3 months for your check?  Hours spent checking and processing the order?  All for a few percet off?</p>
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		<title>By: VirusHead</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2005/04/05/greenzap-paypal-new-competitor/comment-page-1#comment-3126</link>
		<dc:creator>VirusHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok - so here&#039;s the scoop. I haven&#039;t been able to use my so-called Greenzap money. It appears to be a negotiated discount with some online retailers - i.e., a coupon. That&#039;s the best-case scenario.

I&#039;m out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok &#8211; so here&#8217;s the scoop. I haven&#8217;t been able to use my so-called Greenzap money. It appears to be a negotiated discount with some online retailers &#8211; i.e., a coupon. That&#8217;s the best-case scenario.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m out.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2005/04/05/greenzap-paypal-new-competitor/comment-page-1#comment-2737</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 04:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex Sonkin used to live in Chicago. He was a self promoting conman. At first he was known around town as COO then VP of V-Tek Capital, a wanna be hedge fund in Chicago.  He cooked the books and now that company is facing fraud charges for things Alex did while working there. He teamed up with another conman Louis Petrossi out of SanFran. They both worked at The MoneyShow out of Vegas doing the dog and pony scamming millions out of poor mom and pops. Later, he went to promote Traveloggia, another scam MLM gig. IMHO, Damon and Alex sound like they are made for each other!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex Sonkin used to live in Chicago. He was a self promoting conman. At first he was known around town as COO then VP of V-Tek Capital, a wanna be hedge fund in Chicago.  He cooked the books and now that company is facing fraud charges for things Alex did while working there. He teamed up with another conman Louis Petrossi out of SanFran. They both worked at The MoneyShow out of Vegas doing the dog and pony scamming millions out of poor mom and pops. Later, he went to promote Traveloggia, another scam MLM gig. IMHO, Damon and Alex sound like they are made for each other!!!</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2005/04/05/greenzap-paypal-new-competitor/comment-page-1#comment-1495</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If all of you want to do something about Damon Westmoreland give the info you have to the N.Y. stock exchange and tell them your story,Damon Westmoreland is now ceo of Greenzap and on the stock market.Also talk with the D.A. in San Diego, Calif.The more that complain and have proof of his dealings will get him closer to court charges.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all of you want to do something about Damon Westmoreland give the info you have to the N.Y. stock exchange and tell them your story,Damon Westmoreland is now ceo of Greenzap and on the stock market.Also talk with the D.A. in San Diego, Calif.The more that complain and have proof of his dealings will get him closer to court charges&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Unreal</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2005/04/05/greenzap-paypal-new-competitor/comment-page-1#comment-1187</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Unreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 05:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would have to be really naive to think that any company associated with the name Damon Westmoreland is legit. All you have to do is search around on the net and you&#039;ll find his name everywhere. He and his loyal following mearly pawn this off as &quot;competition&quot; trying to smear his &quot;good name&quot;. I don&#039;t see anyone attacking Bill Gates for his success! I have experienced Mr. Westmoreland&#039;s scams - bestof.com and jet99.com - both of which members have been manipulated (including myself) into giving this guy millions only to find themselves left in the cold. If you wish to speak Damon Westmoreland, please contact him at XXXXXXXX. This is the number he gave me in an email - good luck contacting him!

Regards,
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Response: Thanks for your comment, Mr. Unreal - had to edit out the phone number you offered, sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would have to be really naive to think that any company associated with the name Damon Westmoreland is legit. All you have to do is search around on the net and you&#8217;ll find his name everywhere. He and his loyal following mearly pawn this off as &#8220;competition&#8221; trying to smear his &#8220;good name&#8221;. I don&#8217;t see anyone attacking Bill Gates for his success! I have experienced Mr. Westmoreland&#8217;s scams &#8211; bestof.com and jet99.com &#8211; both of which members have been manipulated (including myself) into giving this guy millions only to find themselves left in the cold. If you wish to speak Damon Westmoreland, please contact him at XXXXXXXX. This is the number he gave me in an email &#8211; good luck contacting him!</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Response: Thanks for your comment, Mr. Unreal &#8211; had to edit out the phone number you offered, sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Aussie Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2005/04/05/greenzap-paypal-new-competitor/comment-page-1#comment-999</link>
		<dc:creator>Aussie Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is now 2 days after the &#039;final&#039; launch date. There are still no stores signed up. They have extended the deadline to pay $100 to go Gold till the end of June. Obviously they over estimated the gullibilty of people to part with $100 to be instantly converted to worthless webcash.

The BBB in San Diego is having mail returned from their official mailing address unopened. 

This has been a very badly executed scam. It&#039;s a pity because we really do nee a decent alternative to PayPal.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is now 2 days after the &#8216;final&#8217; launch date. There are still no stores signed up. They have extended the deadline to pay $100 to go Gold till the end of June. Obviously they over estimated the gullibilty of people to part with $100 to be instantly converted to worthless webcash.</p>
<p>The BBB in San Diego is having mail returned from their official mailing address unopened. </p>
<p>This has been a very badly executed scam. It&#8217;s a pity because we really do nee a decent alternative to PayPal.</p>
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