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	<title>Comments on: Papers Please</title>
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		<title>By: Elaine Crowell</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2005/12/02/papers-please/comment-page-1#comment-2693</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine Crowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over 30 years ago I started travelling between California and British Columbia. I did so without any form of identification! 

Once, a couple of American Customs Officers boarded the train I was on and asked everyone to show their ID. When they came to me, I explained that I was an American Citizen and no I didn&#039;t have any ID. They were pretty shocked and asked me how I could prove I was a citizen, or what would I do if they didn&#039;t allow me to proceed. I explained that I would call my mother and she could vouch for my place of birth. After some time, the older officer asked me what hi-school I had gone to in California. &quot;San Diegito Hi&quot;I replied and they let me continue.

I scarcely believe I could get away with it now. ;-)

Nevertheless after living in Canada for well over 30 years, I am feeling increasingly uneasy about the policies and apparent paranoia of the land of my birth.  This fixation on papers is, IMNSHO, one of the symptoms of this disease.  

It is  much easier to influence your constituents through fear, than lead them through inspiration. I find it sad that environmental degradation, global warming and fossil fuel depletion are considered less threatening to the well being of the USA, than terrorism!

Oh Well,
Good Night and Good Luck!
Elainna
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over 30 years ago I started travelling between California and British Columbia. I did so without any form of identification! </p>
<p>Once, a couple of American Customs Officers boarded the train I was on and asked everyone to show their ID. When they came to me, I explained that I was an American Citizen and no I didn&#8217;t have any ID. They were pretty shocked and asked me how I could prove I was a citizen, or what would I do if they didn&#8217;t allow me to proceed. I explained that I would call my mother and she could vouch for my place of birth. After some time, the older officer asked me what hi-school I had gone to in California. &#8220;San Diegito Hi&#8221;I replied and they let me continue.</p>
<p>I scarcely believe I could get away with it now. <img src='http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Nevertheless after living in Canada for well over 30 years, I am feeling increasingly uneasy about the policies and apparent paranoia of the land of my birth.  This fixation on papers is, IMNSHO, one of the symptoms of this disease.  </p>
<p>It is  much easier to influence your constituents through fear, than lead them through inspiration. I find it sad that environmental degradation, global warming and fossil fuel depletion are considered less threatening to the well being of the USA, than terrorism!</p>
<p>Oh Well,<br />
Good Night and Good Luck!<br />
Elainna</p>
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		<title>By: VirusHead</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2005/12/02/papers-please/comment-page-1#comment-2690</link>
		<dc:creator>VirusHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that IDs could be shown the entrance, like at a courthouse? Or if they are really paranoid, as people are getting off the bus? Why would they board buses and &quot;card&quot; everyone just because the Federal Center was on the bus route? She wasn&#039;t even getting off there.

Last year the Supreme Court ruled that a suspect in a criminal investigation can be required to give his name. But it has never upheld a policy of requiring ordinary citizens to carry ID and present it on demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that IDs could be shown the entrance, like at a courthouse? Or if they are really paranoid, as people are getting off the bus? Why would they board buses and &#8220;card&#8221; everyone just because the Federal Center was on the bus route? She wasn&#8217;t even getting off there.</p>
<p>Last year the Supreme Court ruled that a suspect in a criminal investigation can be required to give his name. But it has never upheld a policy of requiring ordinary citizens to carry ID and present it on demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2005/12/02/papers-please/comment-page-1#comment-2686</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 13:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heidi,

I have to agree that this situation was outrageous and handled horribly wrong by the authorities. However, checking ID&#039;s going into Federal Installations isn&#039;t a vialation of anyones rights and it doesn&#039;t constitute a search and seisure violation either as far as I know, but I have been wrong before. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heidi,</p>
<p>I have to agree that this situation was outrageous and handled horribly wrong by the authorities. However, checking ID&#8217;s going into Federal Installations isn&#8217;t a vialation of anyones rights and it doesn&#8217;t constitute a search and seisure violation either as far as I know, but I have been wrong before.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2005/12/02/papers-please/comment-page-1#comment-2676</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I have been out the loop lately, but why has this not been reported more? This is disgusting! Are we still in America? did I fall asleep and land in Russia? This seems like a scene from &quot;Hogans Heroes&quot; not 2005 in America! Wow. takes alot to leave me speechless, but this has. I am off to spread this to everyone I know! thanks again Heidi for keeping me in the loop! ,  signed your friend in the &quot;Alien Nation&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I have been out the loop lately, but why has this not been reported more? This is disgusting! Are we still in America? did I fall asleep and land in Russia? This seems like a scene from &#8220;Hogans Heroes&#8221; not 2005 in America! Wow. takes alot to leave me speechless, but this has. I am off to spread this to everyone I know! thanks again Heidi for keeping me in the loop! ,  signed your friend in the &#8220;Alien Nation&#8221;</p>
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