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	<title>Comments on: Napa JWs Destroying Evidence? Take Action!</title>
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		<title>By: Chuck Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2006/10/22/napa-jws-destroying-evidence-take-action/comment-page-1#comment-48172</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 01:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It shouldn&#039;t suprise anyone who was a witness to see the
reasoning regarding protecting the congregation elders from
bad publicity.

The Society has defined a lie as &quot;withholding the truth from anyone deserving to  know it.&quot;  And who determines who is deserving?  With this definition, (which I challenged when I was an elder), liars are bred within the cloak of the organization&#039;s protection.  

Following the direction of the Organization at the time, as presiding elder, I personally covered up the indiscretions of a fellow elder, who went on to great responsibilities within, and was always great friends with circuit and district overseers.
He has even since contacted me to persuade me to come back into the &quot;truth&quot;.

Fear within this organization is akin to the fear that the USSR
maintained among members of it&#039;s countries.  Reading about this is what assisted me to get out.  But why, I ask myself,
did it take me so long?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It shouldn&#8217;t suprise anyone who was a witness to see the<br />
reasoning regarding protecting the congregation elders from<br />
bad publicity.</p>
<p>The Society has defined a lie as &#8220;withholding the truth from anyone deserving to  know it.&#8221;  And who determines who is deserving?  With this definition, (which I challenged when I was an elder), liars are bred within the cloak of the organization&#8217;s protection.  </p>
<p>Following the direction of the Organization at the time, as presiding elder, I personally covered up the indiscretions of a fellow elder, who went on to great responsibilities within, and was always great friends with circuit and district overseers.<br />
He has even since contacted me to persuade me to come back into the &#8220;truth&#8221;.</p>
<p>Fear within this organization is akin to the fear that the USSR<br />
maintained among members of it&#8217;s countries.  Reading about this is what assisted me to get out.  But why, I ask myself,<br />
did it take me so long?</p>
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		<title>By: Traci</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2006/10/22/napa-jws-destroying-evidence-take-action/comment-page-1#comment-28010</link>
		<dc:creator>Traci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot even begin to explain how sick to my stomache this makes me.  I read it yesterday and today am still weepy about it.  I&#039;ve experienced some of this.  :::::sigh:::::</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot even begin to explain how sick to my stomache this makes me.  I read it yesterday and today am still weepy about it.  I&#8217;ve experienced some of this.  :::::sigh:::::</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2006/10/22/napa-jws-destroying-evidence-take-action/comment-page-1#comment-27699</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This confirms the worst I had always feared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This confirms the worst I had always feared.</p>
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		<title>By: VirusHead</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2006/10/22/napa-jws-destroying-evidence-take-action/comment-page-1#comment-27486</link>
		<dc:creator>VirusHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 02:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are people you interact with gullible, full of hate and looking for a fight - all at the same moment? What interesting friends you must have. Do you call them brothers and sisters?  It&#039;s interesting that you are so bold as to insult me on my blog, but not quite courageous enough to identify yourself. Are you reading just that little too much of the book of Daniel? Is your &quot;email address&quot; of daniel@fudiabfuoapnfduoadf.com supposed to represent some kind of little code, or is it just random picking? Perhaps this topic offends you in some more personal way? It&#039;s sad that you would rather lash out at those who call for justice than for those who have victimized others.

My own experience suggests that JW leadership and legal teams are perfectly capable of and willing to lie, hide, and destroy evidence when facing a slam to their credibility. They have millions of people working for them for free and believing that the gang in New York is actually &quot;God&#039;s channel.&quot;  To protect themselves from &quot;persecution,&quot; this group regularly employs what they call the &quot;theocratic strategy&quot; of withholding information and lying to &quot;worldly authorities&quot; of &quot;Satan&#039;s system of things.&quot; 

JWs on the internet have helped to provide information and hope for justice before, when their conscience spoke. That&#039;s why the email address for legal counsel is given. The identities of such current Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses with conscience are not going to be distributed - for obvious reasons. I have no reason to distrust the Silent Lambs, who have stood up in court to defend some of the victims that the JW leadership ignores.  No, I couldn&#039;t judge whether or not records are actually being destroyed, but if Silent Lambs send out an alert, they have good reason to do so. Whether obstruction of justice or destruction of evidence has happened will be found out in time. I think it&#039;s a credible high-risk, given their previous policies on such matters. It does no harm to ask for information or appeal to a higher sense of conscience among those JWs who really do seek the truth and to please their God (one must assume for sanity&#039;s sake that such a God does not approve of abuse, rape, or child molestation, yes?)

When the leadership hides known child molesters and other abusers, when they allow other children and second wives and others to be put into dangerous (and sometimes even deadly) situations, when they keep such people in positions of power, and move them from between congregations, they share culpability. They have not been interested in the victims, especially women and children. It&#039;s a bit sickening to see them condemn other religions that have, like the Catholics, at least admitted their culpability and tried to address it. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are people you interact with gullible, full of hate and looking for a fight &#8211; all at the same moment? What interesting friends you must have. Do you call them brothers and sisters?  It&#8217;s interesting that you are so bold as to insult me on my blog, but not quite courageous enough to identify yourself. Are you reading just that little too much of the book of Daniel? Is your &#8220;email address&#8221; of <a href="mailto:daniel@fudiabfuoapnfduoadf.com">daniel@fudiabfuoapnfduoadf.com</a> supposed to represent some kind of little code, or is it just random picking? Perhaps this topic offends you in some more personal way? It&#8217;s sad that you would rather lash out at those who call for justice than for those who have victimized others.</p>
<p>My own experience suggests that JW leadership and legal teams are perfectly capable of and willing to lie, hide, and destroy evidence when facing a slam to their credibility. They have millions of people working for them for free and believing that the gang in New York is actually &#8220;God&#8217;s channel.&#8221;  To protect themselves from &#8220;persecution,&#8221; this group regularly employs what they call the &#8220;theocratic strategy&#8221; of withholding information and lying to &#8220;worldly authorities&#8221; of &#8220;Satan&#8217;s system of things.&#8221; </p>
<p>JWs on the internet have helped to provide information and hope for justice before, when their conscience spoke. That&#8217;s why the email address for legal counsel is given. The identities of such current Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses with conscience are not going to be distributed &#8211; for obvious reasons. I have no reason to distrust the Silent Lambs, who have stood up in court to defend some of the victims that the JW leadership ignores.  No, I couldn&#8217;t judge whether or not records are actually being destroyed, but if Silent Lambs send out an alert, they have good reason to do so. Whether obstruction of justice or destruction of evidence has happened will be found out in time. I think it&#8217;s a credible high-risk, given their previous policies on such matters. It does no harm to ask for information or appeal to a higher sense of conscience among those JWs who really do seek the truth and to please their God (one must assume for sanity&#8217;s sake that such a God does not approve of abuse, rape, or child molestation, yes?)</p>
<p>When the leadership hides known child molesters and other abusers, when they allow other children and second wives and others to be put into dangerous (and sometimes even deadly) situations, when they keep such people in positions of power, and move them from between congregations, they share culpability. They have not been interested in the victims, especially women and children. It&#8217;s a bit sickening to see them condemn other religions that have, like the Catholics, at least admitted their culpability and tried to address it.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2006/10/22/napa-jws-destroying-evidence-take-action/comment-page-1#comment-27475</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A Jehovah’s Witness on the internet&quot; revealed this? That sounds like a credible source. No wonder you hate the JW&#039;s....you&#039;re gullible and looking for a fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A Jehovah’s Witness on the internet&#8221; revealed this? That sounds like a credible source. No wonder you hate the JW&#8217;s&#8230;.you&#8217;re gullible and looking for a fight.</p>
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