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	<title>Comments on: Marianne, you have an admirer</title>
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		<title>By: VirusHead</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2007/02/11/marianne-you-have-an-admirer/comment-page-1#comment-51032</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbc.ca/cp/health/070202/x020217A.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Duggan said&lt;/a&gt; the blood passages in the Hebrew Bible - Old Testament - often cited by Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses as their reasons to refuse blood transfusions are safe cooking instructions that date back to the 5th Century.

&quot;That needs to be said,&quot; Duggan said. &quot;The way the Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses read the biblical text is simply wrong.&quot;

The texts in the Hebrew Bible are mainly taken from Genesis 9:4-6 and from the book of Leviticus 17, he said.

&quot;They speak about the life being in the blood, but the blood they are talking about is the blood of animals,&quot; Duggan said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is only a start of a discussion that should be taking place. 

Some background reading on the JWs in particular:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ajwrb.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New Light on Blood&lt;/a&gt; and especially &lt;a href=&quot;http://jme.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/26/5/375&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why some Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses accept blood and conscientiously reject official Watchtower Society blood policy&lt;/a&gt; from The Associated Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses for Reform on Blood 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah&#039;s_Witnesses_and_blood&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses and blood transfusions&lt;/a&gt; page on Wikipedia

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ajwrb.org/misc/ray.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blood and Life, Law and Love&lt;/a&gt; by Raymond Franz, former member of the Governing Body of Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses

Google book search on &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?q=%22abstain+from+blood%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abstain from blood&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

To me, personally, &quot;abstain from blood&quot; refers to approved early sacrificial practices, dietary restrictions and laws, and possibly a prohibition against murder.  The idea of &quot;bloodguilt&quot; is not unrelated to this debate, and it would be interesting to revisit the meaning of Jesus&#039; statement to his followers to &quot;eat his body and drink his blood.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/cp/health/070202/x020217A.html" rel="nofollow">Duggan said</a> the blood passages in the Hebrew Bible &#8211; Old Testament &#8211; often cited by Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses as their reasons to refuse blood transfusions are safe cooking instructions that date back to the 5th Century.</p>
<p>&#8220;That needs to be said,&#8221; Duggan said. &#8220;The way the Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses read the biblical text is simply wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>The texts in the Hebrew Bible are mainly taken from Genesis 9:4-6 and from the book of Leviticus 17, he said.</p>
<p>&#8220;They speak about the life being in the blood, but the blood they are talking about is the blood of animals,&#8221; Duggan said.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is only a start of a discussion that should be taking place. </p>
<p>Some background reading on the JWs in particular:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ajwrb.org/" rel="nofollow">New Light on Blood</a> and especially <a href="http://jme.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/26/5/375" rel="nofollow">Why some Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses accept blood and conscientiously reject official Watchtower Society blood policy</a> from The Associated Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses for Reform on Blood </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah's_Witnesses_and_blood" rel="nofollow">Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses and blood transfusions</a> page on Wikipedia</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ajwrb.org/misc/ray.htm" rel="nofollow">Blood and Life, Law and Love</a> by Raymond Franz, former member of the Governing Body of Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses</p>
<p>Google book search on &#8220;<a href="http://books.google.com/books?q=%22abstain+from+blood%22" rel="nofollow">abstain from blood&#8221;</a></p>
<p>To me, personally, &#8220;abstain from blood&#8221; refers to approved early sacrificial practices, dietary restrictions and laws, and possibly a prohibition against murder.  The idea of &#8220;bloodguilt&#8221; is not unrelated to this debate, and it would be interesting to revisit the meaning of Jesus&#8217; statement to his followers to &#8220;eat his body and drink his blood.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: VirusHead</title>
		<link>http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2007/02/11/marianne-you-have-an-admirer/comment-page-1#comment-51027</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How could I be both an apostate Witness and at the same time completely ignorant on the blood issue? Wouldn&#039;t that be kind of difficult?

In fact, I am neither.  But feel free to read any of my other Jehovah&#039;s Witness related posts, or advice, or news tracking.

Cognitive dissonance is an important way to stimulate someone&#039;s conscience. When things don&#039;t add up, people either repress the issue or start thinking about it for themselves. Real faith is not destroyed by questions and discussions.

So, tell me where Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses question and discuss and debate? Would that be at the meetings? When they question the pronouncements of the Watchtower Society? Or perhaps it happens in their educational training - where they learn Hebrew or Greek, or biblical interpretation? No? Neither the average Kingdom Hall &quot;minister&quot; or the elders have such training. They are encouraged to read only Watchtower publications.

I would be interested in a debate on the topic of blood. There are a wide range of biblical scholars that could responsibly comment on this issue. I am encouraging them to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could I be both an apostate Witness and at the same time completely ignorant on the blood issue? Wouldn&#8217;t that be kind of difficult?</p>
<p>In fact, I am neither.  But feel free to read any of my other Jehovah&#8217;s Witness related posts, or advice, or news tracking.</p>
<p>Cognitive dissonance is an important way to stimulate someone&#8217;s conscience. When things don&#8217;t add up, people either repress the issue or start thinking about it for themselves. Real faith is not destroyed by questions and discussions.</p>
<p>So, tell me where Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses question and discuss and debate? Would that be at the meetings? When they question the pronouncements of the Watchtower Society? Or perhaps it happens in their educational training &#8211; where they learn Hebrew or Greek, or biblical interpretation? No? Neither the average Kingdom Hall &#8220;minister&#8221; or the elders have such training. They are encouraged to read only Watchtower publications.</p>
<p>I would be interested in a debate on the topic of blood. There are a wide range of biblical scholars that could responsibly comment on this issue. I am encouraging them to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Atticus Finch</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My goodness.  You must be an apostate Witness.  You can&#039;t possibly be that misinformed.  At the very least you are ignorant of the actual stand of Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses on blood (finding it from news articles) while purporting to know it.  
&quot;Cognitive dissonance can be a problem for JWs . . .&quot;  What kind of broad-stroke, narrow-minded nonsense is that?  LOL
Also, please note the the &quot;scholer&quot; from St. Mary&#039;s fails to put forth any premise, theory, or argument. nothing. nada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goodness.  You must be an apostate Witness.  You can&#8217;t possibly be that misinformed.  At the very least you are ignorant of the actual stand of Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses on blood (finding it from news articles) while purporting to know it.<br />
&#8220;Cognitive dissonance can be a problem for JWs . . .&#8221;  What kind of broad-stroke, narrow-minded nonsense is that?  LOL<br />
Also, please note the the &#8220;scholer&#8221; from St. Mary&#8217;s fails to put forth any premise, theory, or argument. nothing. nada.</p>
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