{"id":486,"date":"2004-07-20T11:22:31","date_gmt":"2004-07-20T17:22:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.virushead.net\/vhrandom\/2004\/07\/20\/between-science-and-religion\/"},"modified":"2005-03-13T12:16:34","modified_gmt":"2005-03-13T17:16:34","slug":"between-science-and-religion-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.virushead.net\/vhrandom\/2004\/07\/between-science-and-religion-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Between Science and Religion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My hubby John and I were talking last night about eugenics and the Victorians &#8211; yes, this is the curse\/blessing of two intellectuals married to each other.&nbsp;&nbsp; In&nbsp;fact, it&#8217;s easy to&nbsp;demean&nbsp;the Victorians (and others as well of course) for their politically backward views, but they were lacking an understanding which we now have and which makes all the difference.&nbsp; It occurred to me that there is a social benefit, absolutely dependent on theories of evolution, that you don&#8217;t see foregrounded because it falls into the chasm between religion and science.&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>One of the primary tenets of any theory of evolution is the idea of survival of the fittest, i.e. competitive selection.&nbsp; If you don&#8217;t study evolution, you think you know what that means &#8211; but it doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that the strongest or smartest will survive.&nbsp; It only means that those who live to reproduce, and those who actually reproduce, have the advantage.&nbsp; We don&#8217;t necessarily know in advance what qualities, what genes, what behaviors will have survival value given new circumstances.&nbsp; Therefore, we now value the widest possible diversity in the gene pool &#8211; and we understand such diversity itself as having survival value.&nbsp; (Incidentally, this is one reason that cutting down on the variety of our grown crops is dangerous in terms of our food supply; a blight that kills off the major forms or grain might not harm&nbsp;an uncommon variety.) <br \/>&nbsp; <br \/>Before this understanding of the survival as well as social value of diversity, it was easy to simply say that your own in-group was &#8220;superior&#8221; &#8211; which leads to racism, attempted genocide, sterilization programs, and so on.&nbsp; <br \/>&nbsp; <br \/>The scientists don&#8217;t dwell on this as a social value &#8211; the fact of genetic diversity as a value stands alone.&nbsp; They don&#8217;t enter into the social changes it allows since it is not theri area of expertise.&nbsp; On the other side,&nbsp;(literalistic) religionists don&#8217;t really want to take anything from evolutionary theories, so if they are socially progressive they have to rely on something like universal love (&nbsp;we are all God&#8217;s children, etc ).&nbsp; Historically that view&nbsp;really never helped all that much. <br \/>&nbsp; <br \/>When you realize that in order to survive and thrive we&nbsp;need the greatest possible diversity, then socially that means all variations must be valued as necessary.&nbsp; You just never know what traits will have survival value! <br \/>&nbsp; <br \/>To ignore this fact is to exist in a profoundly deluded (and historically destructive) state. To understand this fact&nbsp;brings together religion and science into &nbsp;social synergy &#8211; a scientific ethical stance which neither side is comfortable discussing.<br \/>&nbsp; <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My hubby John and I were talking last night about eugenics and the Victorians &#8211; yes, this is the curse\/blessing of two intellectuals married to each other.&nbsp;&nbsp; In&nbsp;fact, it&#8217;s easy to&nbsp;demean&nbsp;the Victorians (and others as well of course) for their politically backward views, but they were lacking an understanding which we now have and which makes all the difference.&nbsp; It occurred to me that there is a social benefit, absolutely dependent on theories of evolution, that you don&#8217;t see foregrounded&#8230;<\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more\"><a class=\"btn btn-default\" href=\"https:\/\/www.virushead.net\/vhrandom\/2004\/07\/between-science-and-religion-2\/\"> Read More<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">  Read More<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12,6,3,8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-486","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology-and-science","category-personal","category-politics","category-religion"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.virushead.net\/vhrandom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/486","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.virushead.net\/vhrandom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.virushead.net\/vhrandom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.virushead.net\/vhrandom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.virushead.net\/vhrandom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=486"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.virushead.net\/vhrandom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/486\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.virushead.net\/vhrandom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=486"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.virushead.net\/vhrandom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=486"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.virushead.net\/vhrandom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=486"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}